No Ammo mod

Hi Bo; This is new, and sounds like a nice idea, but I would like some more info on how it works, such as:

No store ammo right from the start?
Does it kick in after Level 6 in the Arena? (for e.g.)
A graduated price increase based on some specific criteria?
Are you proposing this is to be rolled into a "final" FC4-HC v18 stable release?

I'm currently using JR's HC4E v0.18.1-8-0-1 mod and Ubi v1.8.0, the end result, hopefully being that it will fit in with any structured testing of a final HC mod created by JR, using his earlier and documented changes, plus any other known changes which can be taken from other mods (yours, Vinh's, ceano's), and built up as we follow his directed test. My suggestion was for a small, manageable, loose "team" - say two, three or four guys, who could test and have input back to JR.

That course seemed to be logical and organised, and the simplest way to "encourage" JR to continue to put together a single version all the way to completed-ness without having to worry about 1.9 and DLC compatibility. I'm just a bit afraid that this might be seen as somewhat moving back to the "free-for-all" of individual modding, and additional requests, without consideration for JR. It's yet another road for him to go down, (sigh) and coming at a time when he's at a low point. It's possible that for him that herding cats is going to be an easier job than managing a slew of new requests from "this guy", and "that guy" - not neccessarily you, but "another forum request to be answered - dug into"... and so on.

Pressure. Burnout.

pj

Its just a simple change of the price list, I set all ammo items with a multiplier of x1000, so that ammo is just not affordable. How to do it is in my Modding 105, where you find the explanation modify the price list by yourself.

Just a quick ? All ammo, as shown in the ammo purchase screen, or the ammo that dead NPCs might be carrying?

Got it. Didn't ask it in the proper context. Sorry about that.

Given the small coding change mentioned, I assume nothing was done regarding how much dead NPCs might give up, nor the inventory levels of ammo cases/caches, or those small ammo "piles" scattered around the countryside.

This is a pretty neat idea and simple to implement. I definitely think something like this would be good for a hardercore or "nightmare mode" type mod to take the game to more extreme levels.

I did experiment with the shop file a little in the past with (as you guys know) mixed results. It's possible that using my how to mod the shop file guide you might find an alternate method to restrict ammo selling.

(I tried setting sherpa buvalues to "-1" which caused some of the problems with save files and them not being able to buy special arrows - an alternate experimental method might be to set iAmmo amount to "0" so you don't get any. It's also fully possible I screwed something up with my sherpa experiment so someone might retry just setting ammo buyvalues to -1 although I think I would steer clear of special arrows LOL)

pj: hearding cats. I like that. Definitely feels that way at times lol.

What I've been doing, and have since FC3, is to record where are the in-game (re-spawning) locations for the "stuff" that Ajay can carry/use.

And one reason why I completely hate how FC4 was changed from 3 are the special arrows - purchase only. No possibility of in-game crafting with material that can be found by the player.

The lack of special arrow purchasing is a major drawback to an otherwise great idea, as it removes, for me, a major component of how one would go about surviving in a more extreme version of the game.

The reasoning behind my original question regarding the ammo purchase screen - all the items on that screen, or just the weapons "shooter" ammo (pistol, SMG, LMG, rifle) on the purchase screen.

I suppose it comes down to indeed, how are the items shown on that screen coded.