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Post by predaaator on Mar 17, 2017 21:00:13 GMT
I played the game again to find entities and new stuff for the editor, and I just realized that Pagan Min is the good guy: He always is nice with you, and Willis tells you he is not a threat. Even in the intro, he kills the soldier because shoot you. {Spoiler}
Even if you decide to wait him in the begining, the game over. Amita and Sabal have bad ideas for a new society, they even think like terrorists. what was your conclusion after finish it? |
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Post by mikeweeks2346 on Mar 18, 2017 1:54:21 GMT
My conclusion was that there were no "good guys", including Pagan Min.
Too bad Ubi didn't offer up a scenario similar to FC2 - there are no "friendlies" in Kyrat in the civil war, and Ajay's only mission(s) was to determine how to actually deliver his Mom's ashes to "Lakshmana".
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Post by jimbo63 on Mar 18, 2017 11:28:17 GMT
IMO the most satisfying game ending is the one where you don't even play the game - just wait for Pagan Min to return at the start of the game and he shows you to Lakshmana's shrine. Other endings left me feeling slightly disappointed. I agree with Mike - definitely no good guys in this game.
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Post by JRavens on Mar 19, 2017 6:42:11 GMT
Yeah no good guys  Then again this IS a Far Cry game where there are no black and white moral choices (or darn few anyway) If you read everything you can see how Mohan is painted in a different light and Ajay's mom's relationship with Pagan is not so simple as we are first led to believe. Having suffered through real loss in my life I feel like I can now identify more with Pagan's pain. Why he may have been driven to extremes. I think some people are truly just 1 tragedy away from becoming supervillians ...But that is just "sympathy for the devil". We must not lose sight that while Pagan does not personal harm Ajay and even appears friendly and possibly loving - he still has caused MUCH harm to others. He knows, approves of and encourages Paul Depleurs torture methods. He destroyed Noore's life (who runs the arena) in a profoundly horrible way. God knows the horrors he inflicted on the "common" people of Kyrat. Heck it may have been a twisted joke but by his own admission he kidnapped and/or killed a celebrity chef's family. He is... not a very nice man... Stumbled across this which talks about a lot of these things: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/FarCry4Overall I think Pagan was a great villain, BECAUSE it's harder to dislike him. I do give credit to the devs for doing a great job with that. I only wish they would have made Ajay less... uninteresting. I guess the thought was if Ajay has no real reactions to any of this it will not mentally sway your opinions one way or the other allowing the players to decide themselves what to think about Kyrat and it's "leaders". |
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Post by thestranger on Apr 30, 2018 12:05:41 GMT
Spoiler Alert** Agreed there's either no good guys or you can pick either to be the good guy, except Sabal.  For me the story in FC4 is the best by far. I'd still pay for a FC4.x where you could choose to side with Pagan or continue the game to take over the country as Pagan mentions. It would be good to see a change in the Kyrat Army, once Pagan turns the country over to you. (He should have let someone else know about that, if it was your country from the beginning) Also - If he survives the story could pick up there also, him to another country that used to be a part of Kyrat. (Or partnering with him) |
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Then again this IS a Far Cry game where there are no black and white moral choices (or darn few anyway)
For me the story in FC4 is the best by far. I'd still pay for a FC4.x where you could choose to side with Pagan or continue the game to take over the country as Pagan mentions. It would be good to see a change in the Kyrat Army, once Pagan turns the country over to you. (He should have let someone else know about that, if it was your country from the beginning)