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Post by mikeweeks2346 on Apr 18, 2015 7:22:46 GMT
This might not be a bug in the HC v.18.1 mod, since the condition exists also in vanilla (i.e., you pop a hunting syringe, it will tag everything regardless of any other tagging settings). However since it's not how I understood the changes made in the mod, based on what's in the changelog:
"* CHANGE: Both levels of the hunting syringe reduce damage you take from animals, increase
damage you do to animals, and decrease animal attacks. The upgraded syringe also increases
stealthy movement significantly."
Is it possible to get an understanding if the intent was that if a player used a hunting syringe, that there would no longer be any tagging whatsoever. Or does the changelog statement mean that in addition to tagging, the hunting syringes also does as stated?
Am I glad I made a save copy just prior to spending the skill point for crafting a hunting syringe. I'll be rolling back to it.
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Post by JRavens on Apr 21, 2015 22:11:03 GMT
I initially removed the tagging icons (icons over the enemies and animals heads) making the hunting syringe not tag anything. Combined with the removed wallhack (seeing enemies through walls) it made the first level of the hunting syringe useless. To help compensate I added the benefits of increased animal damage (surprisingly and unlisted by Ubi decreased damage from animals was actually already a stock benefit)
When Ubi updated FC4 to allow camera tagging to be adjusted I restored the tagging icons so my suspicion is that the vanilla syringe automatically tags all enemies even if you have that option off in the settings menu. Another HUD related bug.
So to answer your question currently (apparently) the syringes give those benefits IN ADDITION to tagging everything. Although you should not see them through walls/hills/etc as red silhouettes.
Interestingly several people complained back then that they didn't like the hunting syringe NOT tagging enemies and asked me to make it so you could only tag enemies by using syringes. Unfortunately the only method I know to remove the icons is by making them blank images so it was an all or nothing proposition.
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Post by mikeweeks2346 on Apr 22, 2015 0:10:44 GMT
Thanks Jeff - when used, there remains no wall hacking; it's just the tagging. In vanilla (which I didn't make clear), you not only tag, but also get the wall hacking.
My impression, from what ubi did, was to eliminate tagging/wall hacking by using the camera/weapons setting (for those who don't want that feature), but still allowed (or forgot to eliminate) it via the hunting syringe - go figure!! ??
Clearly, in hardcore, there should be no tagging whatsoever if at all possible.
For me, as currently structured, it's one elephant branch of skill points that I won't be utilizing, and thus will deal with the default damage from animals.
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